Wimax 2 speeds top 330mbs!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/samsung-showing-o ... »
Clear is in real financial trouble, looking to sell assets in order to raise cash.
Sprint can't afford to bail them out, because Sprint has enough of its own financial troubles.
The majority of the rest of the world is turning to LTE for their 4G network technology.
While the other carriers clamp down on their customers' data usage, Sprint & Clear say "Bring it on! We've got a full 150 MHz swath of bandwidth at 2.4 GHz, all the way arcoss the US, so you can use all the data you want.", yet just last week Clear announced it is trying to find a buyer for 40 MHz of the 150 MHz swath they've got, so there goes their bragging rights about never having to restrict their customers' data usag...
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Not all rosy for WiMax here, 330 Mb/s or not.
Clear is in real financial trouble, looking to sell assets in order to raise cash.
Sprint can't afford to bail them out, because Sprint has enough of its own financial troubles.
The majority of the rest of the world is turning to LTE for their 4G network technology.
While the other carriers clamp down on their customers' data usage, Sprint & Clear say "Bring it on! We've got a full 150 MHz swath of bandwidth at 2.4 GHz, all the way arcoss the US, so you can use all the data you want.", yet just last week Clear announced it is trying to find a buyer for 40 MHz of the 150 MHz swath they've got, so there goes their bragging rights about never
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Regarding Clear, what part of "ongoing negotiations with multiple partners with cash reserves" and "selling off spectrum assets for cash" do you not get? Those are the hallmarks of a company with insufficient capital and insufficient cash flow to sustain itself.
Regarding Sprint, they are not quite in financial hot water, but they are not healthy either. Stock value has been effectivley flatlined at a measly $4.5/share for so long it's pathetic. They are not profitable. They are pinching pennies on every single front. They can't keep customers. They have been laying off people in droves for a couple of years running now.
Methinks one or more of you are stock pumpers, or corporate kool-aid drinkers, not realists....
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As far as Clear, yes they are selling spectrum to raise cash. The key there is that they are selling spectrum THEY DONT NEED. They might as well sell it. Everything I've seen has said this is a move to raise money to continue expanding. I could be wrong but I havent read anything to indicate Clear i...
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http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/special-reports/g ... »
Sprint-Nextel is doing better, perhaps they have "turned the corner", but compared to the biggies in the industry, they are in a very tenuous position and it would not take much to knock them off the road to recovery. Sprint-Nextel has POTENTIAL to recover, but no one in their right mind would say that they are cur...
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http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/04/18/att-set-to ... »
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2008/12/0 ... »
Verizon layed off more then 16,000! 😳
http://www.removethelabels.com/2009/10/16/verizon-co ... »
Keep hating on Sprint they are the best American owned carrier in the US! And have everything first before Verizon or att. Sprint makes verizon and att a complete rip off and t-mobile look like cricket!
Verizon Wireless is a subsidiary of Verizon Communications, an American company. Verizon Communications owns 55% of Verizon Wireless. Verizon Wireless is still headquartered and operated in America. Vodafone, the 45% part-owner IS based in the UK, but has relatively little to do with the operation of Verizon Wireless.
Sprint certainly does have it's fair share of exclusive launch phones, but by no means to they have "everything first." That's a ludicrous ass...
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Sprints plans better, yup, thats why verizon is piloting a simply everything style plan for $99.99 in TX.
Are our phones better, some of them are, some of them arent. But they are better than what sprint use to carry.
Take AT&T's iphone away, they lose 3 million off the bat 1st 2 weeks.
Verizon is good, but they annouced tiered data even for LTE last week, they are overpriced, their customer service rating is flat or declining and their ETF's went up. (to maintain and prevent churn)
Its not that sprint is leap frogging them, but they are nervous at the rate sprint is gaining momentum. Sprint names the best customer service improvement, not industry wide, nationwide of AL...
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vercetti said:
...they are nervous at the rate sprint is gaining momentum...
Something very troubling in the back of my mind tells me that if McAdam and de la Vega are having any sleepless nights trying to figure out how to make their companies more competitive, Sprint isn't even on the radar.
But,hey- if it makes you feel more relevant, I won't rain on your parade. 😛
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/18/verizon-wi ... »
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/verizon-looking-a ... »
I hope Verizon lte plans aren't tiered but I wouldn't get my hopes up. So much for lte getting rid of those 5gb data caps!
So far it looks like Sprint will be the only carrier to offer UNLIMITED 4G! 😎
These links don't show me what I asked for. I said:
Please provide a link showing Verizon's announced tiered data plans for LTE. Thanks.
The links you provided show me rumors. There is nothing announced. There is no specific tiered data plan mentioned. It's all rumor based on the ramblings of a CEO.
Is there something there? I'm sure. But when I asked for an announced tiered data plan, you gave me articles about rumors based on incomplete and unofficial comments made by someone who - I GUARANTEE YOU - can give you more specific information if he wanted to.
Let's talk more once something has actually been announced.
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But AT&T, we have them wooped on network...now sprints biggest network downfall is the 2700MHZ band they use, Iden has some 800MHZ sprint could use for data or voice, that would fix alot of signal degredation in homes and businesses.
If the ESNs on both accounts were the same, they would have fixed it. If they saw no usage on one of the accounts, they would have fixed it.
If you had two accounts and only paid one of them, they would have shut off both accounts once one of them went to collection. You had to have had two accounts in two different names to avoid having both shut off.
And someone doesn't randomly open a second account in someone else's name. A computer error, perhaps. I've seen it once in seven years, so I know it's possible. But it was caught, credited, and fixed within three months of the computer glitch.
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i just hope at&t and verizon will learn they need to drop there prices or else people will drop them in a heartbeat. thats why now... they are finally realizing that. and hopefully put a better number on them deposits for new act's. i know my credit isn'...
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He said it three times, so we can be confident that it was, indeed, all he was saying.
ZumiezEastCoast said:i just hope at&t and verizon will learn they need to drop there prices or else people will drop them in a heartbeat...
Sprint has been 20% - 40% less expensive (on smartphones) than AT&T or Verizon for the last three years, and they just barely started to make subscriber gains within the last six months.
On top of that, their subscriber gains aren't from people signing up for the great smartphone plans, they're from cheapskates rolling with prepaid plans!
For all statistical measures, it looks like differentiating by price is not an effective way to build a cellular organization.
If AT&T has learned that lesson, they must have sold 10-15 million iPhones each quarter before they were pwned.
And as for the rest of your claim, it sounds to me like you make your own koolaid, my friend.
In most markets Sprint's netrwork is more reliable than Verizon's or AT&T's.
Kinda late to the party, but just thought I'd mention it.
DiamondPro said:
Keep hating on Sprint they are the best American owned carrier in the US!
Only when the statistic in question is percentage of employees located overeas
BTW, you missed a few:
Sprint to Lay off More Than 2,000 [Nov 2009]
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/181784 ... »
Update: Sprint to lay off 8,000 by April [Jan 2009]
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9126781/Updat ... »
Sprint Nextel to Lay Off 4000 After Customer Losses [Jan 2008]
http://www.pcworld.com/article/141508/sprint_nextel_ ... »
Sprint Nextel Announces Plan to Lay Off 5,000 [Jan 2007]...
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https://www.phonescoop.com/account/user.php?id=18927 ... »
I guess that doesn't help my case any.
The majority of the rest of the world is not turning to Lte!
There are atleast 56 Wimax 4g networks in 36 countries around the world!
How many Lte networks are there?
And if lte is going to have data caps count me out. And from the looks of things it will knowing verizon!
Sprint has the best data plans period and for what you pay you get a lot more then att or Verizon and its unlimited 3g/4g access.
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Oh, that's why they don't have a data cap? I thought it was because they were a non-profit.
They only have low profits because of the double network cost... but according to Sprint financial numbers this year... Sprint is is in the black and not looking back. Sprints churn is incredibly low as well. They have the two top rated phones in the country as well. The Sprint everyone here is bashing is the Sprint of 2006... this is 2010 almost 2011... times they are a changin....
With a total net loss of $2.5 BILLION in the first three quarters of this year, I'm not sure how any company would be considered "in the black."
Some links, for your perusal:
Q1 2010:
http://www.slashgear.com/sprint-report-865-loss-in-q ... »
SlashGear said:
Sprint’s first quarter 2010 financial results are out, and they don’t make for happy reading if you’re a shareholder of the carrier. The company has reported net operating revenues of $8.1 billion, working out to a net loss of $865 million, while it’s still hemorrhaging subscribers too: 75,000 net jumped ship in the three month period.
Q2 2010:
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But here's a link for you.
http://col.hanslanda.com/img/haters-gonna-hate.gif »
They only have low profits because of the double network cost... but according to Sprint financial numbers this year... Sprint is is in the black and not looking back. Sprints churn is incredibly low as well. They have the two top rated phones in the country as well. The Sprint everyone here is bashing is the Sprint of 2006... this is 2010 almost 2011... times they are a changin....
Note how you specifically mention profits and financials, and then you specifically mention churn as a separate issue. Sprint's churn isn't incredibly low, by any means.
Q1: 2.15%
Q2: 1.85%
Q3: 1.93%
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epik said:
Actually, you specifically said this:
Note how you specifically mention profits and financials, and then you specifically mention churn as a separate issue. Sprint's churn isn't incredibly low, by any means.
Q1: 2.15%
Q2: 1.85%
Q3: 1.93%
Sure, it's better than the previous year, but 1.85% or higher is not low. Prepay churn was over 5% each quarter, too.
Adds ARE looking up! Good for Sprint on that one. The year before, you couldn't say the same.
ANYTHING less than 2% is extremely low.
epik said:
ANYTHING less than 1% is extremely low. Anything more than 1.4% is high. Anything higher than 2% stinks to high hell.
You must work for Verizon...
Now, if they can split that stream into thirty-three 10 Mbps streams running to different users concurrently, they'll have something to talk about.
There's really just no point in having a single stream carrying more than 20 Mbps. Even the fiber-to-the-home outfits stop caring at anything better than 20 Mbps throughputs.
If every active channel can support 720p or 1080i, that's good enough.
CellStudent said:
They're going to have trouble finding customers for a product like that. It's complete overkill for the consumer market, and in the business market, anyone needing those kinds of speeds will pay for laying fiber in the ground because it's way, way cheaper in the long run.
Now, if they can split that stream into thirty-three 10 Mbps streams running to different users concurrently, they'll have something to talk about.
There's really just no point in having a single stream carrying more than 20 Mbps. Even the fiber-to-the-home outfits stop caring at anything better than 20 Mbps throughputs.
If every active channel can support 720p or 1080i, that's good enough.
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As long as Sprint/Clear continue to offer 4g speeds at a reasonable price and improve the customer experince people will want those faster speeds.
Futhermore those speeds will provide them with an advantage. Current Wimax speeds are being throttled back for 2 reasons. Sprint current 4g network is capable of reaching faster speeds then the 10mbs I'm getting now but could result in loss of stability. Secondly the current market does have the demand for those types of Speed. Once more device have internet connectivity: laptops, printers, tablets, cameras, cars, video chatting etc... There will be huge demand!
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DiamondPro said:
I begin to question you knowledge when you say that those speeds are overkill.
They are overkill for mobile data connections. I cannot think of a single application requiring over 10 Mbps that anyone actually uses while inside a moving vehicle. Perhaps a film crew streaming a super-HD image from a video camera on-site back to an editing studio for a semi-live broadcast? Almost every local TV news crew already does this, and they do it a whole lot cheaper then a nationwide 4G network ever could.
Couple that with all the research going on to minimize data streams for efficiency (like RIM does) and the construction uber-big wireless pipes ends up being nothing more then spending...
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CellStudent said:...
They are overkill for mobile data connections. I cannot think of a single application requiring over 10 Mbps that anyone actually uses while inside a moving vehicle. Perhaps a film crew streaming a super-HD image from a video camera on-site back to an editing studio for a semi-live broadcast? Almost every local TV news crew already does this, and they do it a whole lot cheaper then a nationwide 4G network ever could.
Couple that with all the research going on to minimize data streams for efficiency (like RIM does) and the construction uber-big wireless pipes ends up being nothing more then spending 3x as much money as you needed to and not having a superior product from the standpoint of
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CamelTowing said:
Mr Ascrooge wants to limit mobile data according to his own ideas. 🙄
I fail to see what's un-capitalistic about expecting individuals to pay for what they themselves consume.
Why should my minimal usage of data require me to pay the same monthly rates as users who may consume over 10,000 times more cellular data than I do? My Android drank just over 350 MB last month, because I have WiFi nearly everywhere I go, yet it's nowhere near low enough to consider a baseline 150 MB or 200 MB program.
My monthly statement seems to indicate that I'm being required to subsidize a bunch of punk kids running around the country pumping porn and Pandora out of their pockets perpetually. T...
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Wow! You're anti-porn. I would have never guessed.
CellStudent said:...
I fail to see what's un-capitalistic about expecting individuals to pay for what they themselves consume.
Why should my minimal usage of data require me to pay the same monthly rates as users who may consume over 10,000 times more cellular data than I do? My Android drank just over 350 MB last month, because I have WiFi nearly everywhere I go, yet it's nowhere near low enough to consider a baseline 150 MB or 200 MB program.
My monthly statement seems to indicate that I'm being required to subsidize a bunch of punk kids running around the country pumping porn and Pandora out of their pockets perpetually. This is not a stable, market-driven economic practice, it's a consequence of an ill-comp
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-clearwire ... »
And you still think Sprint & Clear are in good shape and ready to skyrocket to the top, LOL.
cellphonesaretools said:
And now Sprint & Clearwire are "bickering" over 4G charges for SPrint's customers:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-clearwire ... »
And you still think Sprint & Clear are in good shape and ready to skyrocket to the top, LOL.
It amounts to Verizon and Vodaphone bickering over roaming agreements. Not as big a deal as Sprint haters would love to believe...
Sprint has had to pay out their own settlements over the years for overcharging customers, it's not like Sprint has always been clean.
Here's Bloomgerg's take on Sprint's being "between a rock and a hard place" with Clearwire's financial troubles:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-18/sprint-s-te ... »
Getting back to the original post, I stand by my contention that Sprint's and Clearwire's own internal issues and ineptitide vastly overwhelm any miniscule bit of faint hope for being saved by a POTENTIAL, FUTURE version of WiMax that can THEORETICALLY deliver 330 Mbps under ideal conditions.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/09/clearwire_sp ... »
Besides I read a diamondpro post that said wimax is the global standard so my personal experience tells me this article you've posted is not correct.
Look you can take all your truth and facts and wisdom and knowledge and throw it in the trash can.
You don't even know the difference between hyper-reality and reality.
Sprint, wimax and diamodpro rule!
You know, 'cause 🤣 means that.
Bigger ecosystem? I'm not sure that really matters. CDMA had no problem becoming a strong 2nd place. Many argue that CDMA is/was the superior technology to the GSM technologies.
Technologies don't really matter... yeah GSM showed that they can make "cheaper" devices but it didn't always translate to better devices. And it certainly didn't stop Verizon and Sprint from having gobs of customers. In the end I believe it's the service(s) that the carriers provide ...
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