How long until US cell suffers same fate??
Does Verizon offer 7pm nights and weekends on their national plans like most of USCC's plans? No. Only 9pm is offered.
Does Verizon allow you to get unlimited incoming calls anywhere in the US? No. Exception; Verizon In or mobile to mobile, but you have to be on the Verizon network for that to work. That's not a full national coverage.
Is the USCC national coverage inferior to Verizon's? No. Because USCC uses many Verizon towers as well as other CDMA providers to complete their...
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This will probably and unfortunately continue to be the norm with us cell... While VZW and ATT are continuing to show positive subscriber growth..I'm not trying to go against US Cell, just stating the obvious here.. Probably a good time to shop the company while they are still somewhat on top..
You did fail to mention some of the more important facts. Like ARPU at USCC is one of the highest in the industry, churn is one of the lowest, and data revenue is up 66%.
The most important fact is USCC is profitable. You don't have to have growth to remain profitable. It helps, but growth does not guarantee profit. Last I check, USCC is not a non-profit organization.
jaimic said:
The facts you gave are correct. But there is not necessarily a problem with the loss of prepay customers. Postpay is up, not by much, but up. Postpay is the bread and butter, prepay is just gravy. We can go without the gravy if needed.
You did fail to mention some of the more important facts. Like ARPU at USCC is one of the highest in the industry, churn is one of the lowest, and data revenue is up 66%.
The most important fact is USCC is profitable. You don't have to have growth to remain profitable. It helps, but growth does not guarantee profit. Last I check, USCC is not a non-profit organization.
True to a point.. Growth does need to happen to remain profitable, especially i...
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I'm currently on a wide area plan WITH A BLACKBERRY and I went out of the calling area a couple weeks ago my data was just fine! I used my google maps, email, and surfed on my browser.
Good try...NEXT!
Oh! another reason why USCC is better than Verizon.
You can bluetooth and use myxer.com for ringtones!! HA!
Its getting boring really.
Stock prices are the best in the industry and have been. At one point in 2007 they were over $100 per share. They closed at $45 today. A world wide economic recession will do that to any company.
Hmmm Verizon carried BILLIONS in debt and is backed by another wireless carrier called Vodafone which happens to have the controlling share of Verizon Wireless.
USCC's profitability, constant growth and the ability to offer cutting edge plans and services that other can/will not for better prices because they don't have un godly amounts of debt makes them an excellent company.
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Personally I was shocked that Verizon even considered, much less added Alltel's circle. Point is it will never happen for big red. Period. Going forward, they are going to have to add customers the hard way.....by selling phones. But it shouldn't be an issue with all the false advertising and hate they spew towards all of their competition. đ
I know a lot of you USCC people think ...
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Basic knowledge in the stock market would let you know that a company can raise or lower their stock price by releasing more shares or buying back existing shares.
I cannot confirm this - but Alltel was looking to make a move on both Sprint and USCC - And then their fate âšī¸
I am a big USCC fan - but don't say it won't happen to USCC too.
1) For EVDO and DATA roaming; USCC has a data roaming agreements with Verizon, Alltel, and Sprint. As a USCC customer one would have unlimited access to Verizon's data network and vice versa. Simply put, if those 3 carriers have data service, I would too. No, it's not at EVDO speeds, but neither is Verizon on USCC's.
2) I have taken my Blackberry on a trip, and my HTC Touch. Phoenix, Denver, LA, and others. No problems at all.
What else you got for us? đ¤Ŗ
Also when I travel to LA, Phoenix (cities you mentioned) and Vegas I like to be able to use EVDO in a home market that I'm paying for..
I just think that US Cell should probably be looking into selling while they are still an attractive company...Not to mention their phone selection is pretty bad to say the least... Here in my market (Chicago- US Cells largest market) they roam off of sprint which is laughable at best..
When US Cell releases their next quarterly update dont let me be the one to say "I told you so" đ
that i know for a FACT is incorrect. US Cellular runs their own network in the Chicagoland area. Remember when the EL Fire happened and people were stuck in the subways underground....guess whos phones worked and noone elses? yup USCC.
Now sir i see you are false. I have had both us cellular and sprint at the same time and i know the difference.
Any other Falsified information you wanna throw at us?
I actually live in Chicago and work for Verizon but USCC is by far better than all carriers except Verizon overall in city. probably better inside stadiums or big buildings...but nationwide gotta give props to Verizon. Notice that at&t cant run their "More bars in more places" anymore and Sprint can't run their "largest 3g network" anymore...even though that was debateable for a long time to begin with.
But dont be hating on USC. They wont hurt Verizon and Id rather consumers go to them then att or sprint or other nationwide companies
phonenerd24 said:
gotcha, where do you get your information such as "Us cellular roams off sprint in chicago"
that i know for a FACT is incorrect. US Cellular runs their own network in the Chicagoland area. Remember when the EL Fire happened and people were stuck in the subways underground....guess whos phones worked and noone elses? yup USCC.
Now sir i see you are false. I have had both us cellular and sprint at the same time and i know the difference.
Any other Falsified information you wanna throw at us?
When US Cell needs to roam in the Chicagoland market its off sprint and vice versa for sprint.. We all know US Cell has their own license in Chicago but there are a bunch of places that they r...
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Bring it So called Maverick...ha
phonenerd24 said:
im in the FAR Western burbs and i know once again that you are wrong, there is a low lying area on a major highway where my sprint phone would always drop a call, well guess what? it doesnt on US Cellular..
Bring it So called Maverick...ha
OK pay attention now... I SAID if US Cell does not have coverage somewhere in the Chicago market then it will roam on sprint.. I didn't say it uses sprint exclusively.. You have to pay attention a little more... đ
I'm far more happy with Sprint then I was with USCC, USCC sucks!! I wouldn't recommend them to anyone!!
here2help said:
I work as a Network Technician for USCC in the Chicago area, and we do NOT roam off of Sprint. If need be we have Verizon as our number one roaming partner.
I think this is stupid, but USCC is not allowed to roam on Verizon in the Chicago market. It has to do with the Primeco divesture in Chicago & Northern Indiana. So with that in mind, in-market roaming isn't allowed on Verizon. For Chicago & Northern Indiana, it's on Sprint.
phonenerd24 said:
gotcha, where do you get your information such as "Us cellular roams off sprint in chicago"
that i know for a FACT is incorrect. US Cellular runs their own network in the Chicagoland area. Remember when the EL Fire happened and people were stuck in the subways underground....guess whos phones worked and noone elses? yup USCC.
Now sir i see you are false. I have had both us cellular and sprint at the same time and i know the difference.
Any other Falsified information you wanna throw at us?
USCC does have an in-market roaming agreement with Sprint. That's for areas where USCC has yet to improve coverage. When their Chicago network was Primeco, the in-market roaming agreement wa...
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SwillVZWagent said:
Haha the spots where Verizon MIGHT need to use your towers is dwarfed in comparison to the areas you would use Verizons
Exactly... I prefer not to roam over 90% of the country... Not to mention I think the "wine" and "2-step" say it all in terms of what direction they are headed... đ¤Ŗ đ¤Ŗ
Verizon is a an awesome company, it shows from its growth, US cellular has also shown with its growth, and is expanding, competition is getting slimmer, someone mention may sprint will buy USCC, more like Would USCC buy sprint, look at the condition they are in, sprint is predicted to...
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Now is anyone were buyout the other, it might be USCC buying out Sprint, and not the other way around. Sprint has refused to own lower band frequencies (other than 800 SMR), and never participated in the 700 band auction. Sprint likes that the wavelength is more controllable with higher band frequencies than with lower band frequencies. Also, between USCC & Alltel (only looking at regional carriers),USCC has made an attempt to expand in PCS, while Alltel has done their expansion with buyouts, and focussing primarily on lower b...
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People really don't care about opening the door for them when they come in, or above grade customer service they want the hottest phones. I used to work for USCC loved the company period. I left on good terms for a better opportuni...
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USCC is in different markets that actually care about that, in the community i have grown up in in the WA/OR market people look for that, fast food places loses customers for just shutting the freaking window when they walk away. Haha.
Its amazing where people actually go, I myself was a customer for quiet a while, and stayed with USCC, just because its a different kind of company making a difference, no I couldn't have the coolest phones, but I could have one of the best services, and a company with good morals.
Its just one of those things, and
Sprint wouldn't be worth 50 billion, you can compare price with cust...
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Attkid said:...
You guys are nuts. Do you know what Alltel sold to VZ for? 28 billion. Do you know how many customers they had? 11 million. Sprint has 5 times that. Do the math. Im not saying Sprint is worth 50 billion but at least 40. USCC could never put up that kind of cash. The bottom line is that USCC will do what is best for the stock holders period. Now would be a good time to sell with the downturn in wireless and fierce competition. They will never have the storm, bold, or the best selling phone of all time iPhone.
People really don't care about opening the door for them when they come in, or above grade customer service they want the hottest phones. I used to work for USCC loved the company period. I left on
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do you really NEED evdo everywhere you go? No
and eventually evdo will be everywhere.
Also... we share towers with verizon đ
I'm not picking on you, only curious. I see several with these loaded plans that cost over $100 such as yours for the 2 phones.
Why wouldn't you switch to boost? It would be unlimited everything for 50 each...or so the commercials say...??
jaimic said:
Does Verizon allow you to get unlimited incoming calls anywhere in the US? No. Exception; Verizon In or mobile to mobile, but you have to be on the Verizon network for that to work. That's not a full national coverage.
I have no idea where you got this from!
haha! loser. You can be off the Verizon network and still have mobile to mobile calling.
And Verizon has Friends and Family where you pick 5 or 10 numbers to call for free, i dont see USCC with that. I dont USCC with a large EVDO network, idk if they even have one!
Thanks for calling me a loser. I got the info that you must be on a Verizon network for M2M to be unlimited from a Verizon rep, and straight off their web site.
On this page; http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Calling%20Plans/f aq_in_calling.html#item3
It says and I quote: "The best way to determine service availability for Mobile to Mobile Calling is to pay attention to your handset's roaming indicator. If your roam indicator is on or flashing, Mobile to Mobile Calling does not apply". đ¤Ŗ
Let me spell it out for you. Roaming means you're off your home network. Hence it is not unlimited.
Now you have an idea where I got it from. I sure hope you're not a Verizon rep, be...
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TheUSCellGuy said:
The stock was $100 two years ago, today it's $40. If they sell now, they will lose their ass. I don't think VZW will buy them anytime soon, but you never know. Is it possible that at&t or Sprint would buy them???
I think that it would be a nightmare for AT&T to purchase US Cell seeing as how they are opposite in terms of GSM and CDMA. Sprint could be possible but their losing their back end right now... I dont see how it would benefit Verizon any seeing as how Verizon's network is better in all the areas that US cell provides service... Well at least here in the Chicagoland area...US Cell will continue to see a downward fall quarter after quarter.. Mark my words..
maverick96 said:
I think that it would be a nightmare for AT&T to purchase US Cell seeing as how they are opposite in terms of GSM and CDMA. Sprint could be possible but their losing their back end right now... I dont see how it would benefit Verizon any seeing as how Verizon's network is better in all the areas that US cell provides service... Well at least here in the Chicagoland area...US Cell will continue to see a downward fall quarter after quarter.. Mark my words..
Sprint has refused to acquire lower band frequencies, and will continue to avoid them at all costs. I forgot where I read it, but they don't like lower band frequencies. Nextel uses 800 SMR, and that's the only exception, but the ...
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People really don't care about opening the door for them when they come in, or above grade customer service they want the hottest phones. I used to work for USCC loved the company period. I left on good terms for a better opportunity...
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1) Alltel 14.7 million customers as of 3rd quarter 2008. Not 11 million.
2) Sprint had 50.1 million as of Q3 2008. Definitely not "5 times more".
3) Sprint is not worth "...at least 40" billion dollars. Sprint currently has a market capitalization (simply put, a net worth) of $8.1 billion.
4) Us Cellular currently has a market capitalization of $4.11 billion
5) TDS (US Cellular's parent company) owns 82% of USCC stock, and has a current market capitalization of $4.04
6) "Fierce competition" has nothing to do with a decision to sell if you are profitable. USCC recently post...
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So...will they be purchased...maybe, but I seriously doubt it. I thinks its more likely we'll see them start picking up other smaller carriers...or Sprint it they keep it up.
The market Capitalization of Sprint is around 8 Billion thats it. They have customers leaving left and right and have sold off most of their tangible assets.
Cash is not needed to purchase anyone either stock or financing.
I agree that sprint will not get bought by USCC since were way to conservative under the Carlson tds umbrella. That doesn't mean its not possible.
Storm - correct we wont have it because verizon dished out millions for R&D but according to a RIM rep they are making a different touch bb to be released to all carriers.
Bold- Currently its only GSM so Duh we cant have it but rumored is a CDMA version and I bet we will grab it to replace the 8830 eventually.
The Iphone is not the best se...
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And if I am not mistaken, Motorola and US Cellular teamed up together to celebrate the 50 millionth RAZR sold in Chicago.
http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail.jsp? ... »
Have u looked at the stock market everyone is dropping and most have reached the 50% of their original value 6 months ago.
Its called a recession and durring a recession stocks drop below their true value after the correction from an inflated market.
So USCC is worth more then 30.00 pr share just like the investment banks are worth more then 2.00 a share.
Please refrain from using the logic. Company A stock is droped a bunch in the last X time = bad company
it just doesn't work like that. If you need better metrics to anyalyze look at debt/asset ratio, arpu , and other statistical data with a more consistant history and trend line.
usccinstl said:
Yes, our stock price has dropped in the last few months. It is a recession though, and that is to be expected. We beat expectations. Our churn is still lowest in the industry and we are still headed in the right direction. And for all you people out there who are talking doomsday buyout for US Cellular, our stock prices are higher still than any of the other carriers. We won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
Especially when the Carlsons own most of the stock. I hear it's 82% of USCC & TDS Metrocom stock. So USCC won't go anywhere as long as the Carlsons own that much stock.
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I don't think a carrier should worry about keeping people honest. The customer should keep track of their phone and if they lose it, then they replace it. CDMA doesn't really fit in well with a great customer service company like USCC. USC has the best customer service, but using CDMA is not a customer friendly technology. Like I said, the company dictates what phone you can and cannot use and it HAS to be a phone owned by that service provider. Seems like a lot of extra unnecessary work. With GSM all the carrier worries about is your SIM card. You can switch phones just by moving the SIM to another phone. WIth CDMA, you have to program the phone and have a rep activate it and you have to downl
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Though with the battery swap program and still a whole new line up of phones it'd be odd. How long will Verizon operate the Altell name for?